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Post by oohl1 on Mar 5, 2008 22:50:01 GMT -5
The current OOHL rules create a problem for teams who have rookie players who occasionally get called up from the AHL or juniors to the NHL. This causes owners to either call them up and lose a regular roster player (and then have to sign someone else once the rookie is sent back down) or else waive the rookie. Neither is a good option. During the past year, several owners, such as Steve and Dave, have suggested that this be remedied.
So...the following is a basic proposal of how we might handle this. It is NOT set in concrete...I'll be happy to listen to suggestions about how any part of it (or all of it) could work better.
You're all welcome to leave your comments in this thread...please try to think about other possible issues or difficulties that might arise from adopting this rule. Better we all think it through now and get it right the first time than have to fix it later. Thanks!
Rule proposal follows in the next message on this thread....
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Post by oohl1 on Mar 5, 2008 22:57:33 GMT -5
Proposed rule 17 (current rule 17 will be renumbered to rule 18): PRESS BOX SQUAD
17.1 A team may keep up to four players on their “press box squad”. These players must be rookies, as defined by the NHL standard for awarding the Calder Cup. For example, if a team signed Mario Lemieux to their AHL squad and he decided once again to come out of retirement, he could not be placed in the press box - he would have to be added directly to the OOHL team as is currently done.
17.2 Stats for players in the press box do not count for stats and their contracts do not go into effect. In other words, a rookie who spends all season in the press box will still be a “C” player next season.
17.3 For every player on the press box squad, the team will forfeit one AHL spot. For example, if a team keeps two rookies in the press box, they may have only two players on their AHL squad.
17.4 Players who are in the AHL and are recalled by their NHL teams may be placed directly onto the press box squad. 17.5 A player in the press box may be activated and placed on the active roster at any time, just as if he was an AHL player called up. At that point his contract does go into effect. The player replaced by the rookie goes on waivers (unless, of course, the rookie is replacing an injured player).
17.6 A rookie on the press box squad must be assigned to the AHL or released if he is sent to the minors or juniors by his NHL team. After 12/1, such as release will count against the team’s monthly release limit, just as it does now.
17.7 Once a rookie is activated from the press box, a team may only send him back to the press box by passing him through waivers. If he clears, he is automatically returned to the team's press box squad at his original salary. If a rookie is claimed, the claiming team may place the player directly on its press box squad if it has room, or release another rookie if it does not. After 12/1, such a release does count against the monthly release limit.
17.8 Teams may sign available rookies and place them in the press box at any time during the season, just as in now done with AHL players, until December 31.
17.9 Teams may release players from the press box squad at any time, just as they may do for AHL players now. After 12/1, such as release will count against the monthly release limit.
17.10 Summary of cases
17.10.1 CASE – rookie in AHL is recalled by his NHL team.
OPTIONS – OOHL team may recall him and place him on active roster, or waive him, or place him in press box. The first two options are the current rules, the third option is new.
17.10.2 CASE – player on active OOHL roster or press box squad is sent down by NHL team.
OPTIONS – OOHL team may send him to AHL or release him. This is no change from the current rule.
17.10.3 CASE – owner activates a player from the press box.
OPTIONS – player must be waived or placed on IR to make room for him. Basically, this works the same as recalling from AHL does now.
17.10.4 CASE – owner deactivates a player from active squad back to press box.
OPTIONS – player must clear waivers first. Owner can always release the player instead at a weekly meeting instead; however, after 12/1 this release counts against the limit.
17.10.5 CASE – owner wants to sign a rookie free agent to press box squad
OPTIONS – Email the signing. Same as current rule for AHL players.
17.10.6 CASE – owner wants to release a rookie from press box squad.
OPTIONS – Email the release. Same as current rule for AHL players. After 12/1, this release counts against the limit.
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sqd30
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Post by sqd30 on Mar 6, 2008 5:54:39 GMT -5
I am fine with the rule change exactly how you have stated it.
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Post by luke3514 on Mar 6, 2008 9:50:02 GMT -5
I am for this new rule change as stated above in it's entirety.
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aaron
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Post by aaron on Mar 8, 2008 10:00:29 GMT -5
I like the proposed rule change. I would suggest that in order to simplify eligibility for the press box, it shouldn't reference Calder eligibilty, which can be confusing. Instead maybe pick an amount of career NHL games played (i.e. 25 or 30) after which the player would no longer be press box eligible.
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Post by brimyster on Mar 14, 2008 9:03:07 GMT -5
Wow, Ok where to begin!?
I am against this proposed rule change. It WAY over-complicates things and takes the roster strategy/planning out of the equation!
Why not just allow a owner a extra week to decide to call-up/release/waive a said AHL player and keep the roster decisions in the mix!?
Just my 2 cents. Brian-STL Swordsmen
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Post by jztirf on Mar 17, 2008 23:05:07 GMT -5
I agree with Brian that it over complicates things,... I would vote Against this proposed Rule Change; Take your chances with Rookies,... If the player is worthwhile keeping, that is the Risk you take.
Moscow Mules Jason
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Post by oohl1 on Mar 22, 2008 9:50:01 GMT -5
I am against this proposed rule change. It WAY over-complicates things and takes the roster strategy/planning out of the equation! Why not just allow a owner a extra week to decide to call-up/release/waive a said AHL player and keep the roster decisions in the mix!? Alowing the extra week would overcomplicate things much more than having a press box. Believe me, I know...I have to keep track of who is due for activation and when! And I disagree this change removing the strategy and planning of the roster. NHL teams can bring an extra player up from the minors and spend a few weeks on the roster, but playing only a few games here and there. OOHL teams as it now stands are in a straitjacket. If your AHL player is brought up, you either have to play him every night or lose him. That's especially unfair if the callup is made after January 1 - then there's no opportunity to re-sign him. And no, letting teams add and drop AHL players all year isn't the solution to that - we added that restriction a few years ago to solve a different problem.
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